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Thursday, July 2, 2009

Negative Book Reviews


Originality, great characters, a terrific plot, beautiful dialogue and prose and appropriate pacing are all key to a great story and influence how books are rated. Any book that meets this criteria would be a keeper on my bookshelf. Unfortunately, a percentage of the books I read and review fall short of some of these elements, resulting in ratings that are below the 'recommended' level, which brings me to the purpose of this post.

As a reviewer, from time to time my reviews and those of the guest reviewers on the blog will upset a few authors. Not because we're insulting or mean, but because we point out, politely, what we believe are obvious flaws in their books . Our job, in my view, is to write reviews for the readers who trust us to be honest and give them the straight goods, and we take this responsibility seriously. There are no pot shots at authors on this blog and the reviews are not vicious or self serving; we don't try to build our reputation by being satirical at the authors' expense and we don't skewer the books. We believe a good review is constructive and objective and talks about the book, not the author, because we recognize that it's tough to write a book - some reviewers may even be frustrated would-be authors so they understand how difficult it is to write and get their books published. When we review a book we stick to the facts and talk about the characters - whether they are stereotypes or nuanced three dimensional people, the plot, the pacing, if the total package had that indefinable WOW factor and, generally, what moved us (or not) and what worked or didn't work in the stories. We also mention errors such as switched names, spelling mistakes and typos.

Authors love us when we praise their books but when we write negative reviews on their stories a small percentage crap all over the review sites or the reviewers. In extreme cases they diss the reviewer in print. As an example, on Monday mediabistro.com reported that author Alice Hoffman was incensed because another writer and freelance critic for the Boston Globe, Roberta Silman, gave Hoffman's newest book a less than 5 star review in the Globe. To say Ms Hoffman wasn't pleased by the review is to put it mildly and she got her revenge by venting on Twitter. Here's the post on mediabistro.com. This demonstrates why a bad review is not something authors should complain about on the internet - just write better books and who knows, that same reviewer may give you a glowing review next time. Not everyone is going to love every book you write because tastes differ, but on balance, if you receive a string of bad reviews maybe you should look closer to home for the reason.

Sometimes when they receive negative reviews authors write the sites requesting that they do not review their books anymore or they demand that their publishers do not send their books to those sites. It is an author's prerogative to refuse to have their books reviewed by certain sites or blogs, but in my opinion it might be a better strategy to read the reviews, and if they find something in them that they think is noteworthy, good or bad, then take it for what it's worth -- maybe there's a little kernel in there that might be helpful in future. If one reviewer criticizes your book you can ignore his/her comments but if several say the same thing, perhaps you should listen.

A few weeks ago the reviewers on this blog had the misfortune to read several books that were below par (these things seem to run in cycles) and consequently the reviews were not enthusiastic. Although we try to couch our comments in very polite terms, a few authors were upset because their books had received a string of bad reviews and they decided not to have them reviewed on the blog in future.

Every author puts out bad books from time to time and negative or uncomplimentary reviews are part of being in any creative field or endeavour. Actors learn to suck it up when their new play opens on Broadway to horrible reviews, but they don't fold their tents and go home unless the play folds. Similarly, restaurants get their share of 1 star reviews and they realize that they would not be in business for very long if they were mad at every customer who said that the food sucked, or every reviewer who gave the restaurant an unflattering review; instead they try to correct the problem. Many authors, even the best ones, write their share of books that should never have seen the light of day and most of them recognize that the problem is theirs and they correct it in future releases. But there are those who blame the messenger!

Josh Lanyon wrote an interesting post on this subject here in which he makes quite a few valid points.

Sol Stein, a writer of many books and plays who is also an editor, said in his book Stein on Writing that a writer should "provide a reader with an experience that is superior to the experiences the reader encounters in everyday life." I always remember those words and look for "a superior experience" whenever I open a new book. More often than not I'm disappointed, but I don't despair because when I least expect it I find a wonderful treasure that becomes a keeper.

So to close this post, I have a question - Authors, do you believe that your books should not be honestly critiqued if reviewers don't find that they come up to the same standard to which we hold other books?

44 comments:

Ingrid said...

Good post Wave. I do feel cheated in a way when I see sites that only write (very) positive reviews. That means they either have no opinion at all and just like everything or that they leave the books that they did not like from the site.
I want to see that negative reviews too even more when they explain why someone did not like the book. It might be that I do like them when others don't. I recall Broken Boundaries and Horizons by Micky Ashling.

I am not a writer. Well I tried and found out how hard it is get a story finished. So I appreciate the effort. But one just can't like every book that is written even if it is written by ones favourite writer

Sean Kennedy said...

I don't like reviews that are snarky just to prove their own coolness, but I much prefer constructive criticism. As much as it rocks to get a positive review that loves EVERYTHING about your book, I'd much prefer to read one that also says what is not so good or could be improved upon.

The only problem is when those points contradict each other over a series of reviews by different reviewers ;)

Meg said...

I find a lot to think about in all reviews, from the glowing to the not so great. I see reviews as an opportunity to find out from someone who doesn't know me and doesn't owe me anything, what they honestly thought of my book.

In my experience, bad reviews have actually been more useful to me as a writer than good reviews.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I love good reviews and a good one can have me floating on air for days, but I tend to learn more from the ones that explain where the book lets the reader down.

Madelynne Ellis said...

I'd rather read an honest review that mentions the books short comings than lots of "this was wonderful" type comments. So personally, I like reviewers who are prepared to point out what didn't work for them and why. That said, I understand why some authors don't want to see bad reviews. Just as a good review can lift you up high and bring a glow to your writing for days, a bad review can bring everything to a standstill. And when your livelihood his writing, a standstill is not a good place to be.

Jenre said...

Oh honestly, this is ridiculous! On one hand there are people who accuse this site of being overly positive in our reviews and on the other hand, there are authors who are taking their bat and ball home because they don't like that we've given a fair, honest yet critical review.

It can't happen both ways.

I believe that this site produces reviews that are intelligent and thoughtful. All the reviewers take the time to explain why a book didn't work for them (or even why it did). If authors can't cope with that, then that is more a reflection of them and their inability to respond positively to constructive criticism, than it is a fault of this review site.

Another point is that an author cannot actually stop us from reviewing their book. They can prevent a publisher from passing on books to this site to review, but they can't stop Wave from buying the book out of her own pocket and posting a review here. Mind you, after such a response, I'd be disinclined to buy any more books by them anyway.

Erastes said...

Well, speaking as another reviewer who tries to be as honest and fair as I can be, this is a subject dear to my heart. So I may go on a bit, I'm afraid.

THERE IS NO POINT having a review site that only posts good reviews. Elisa Rolle, bless her heart, will only review books she likes, and that's fine, she's not a review site, per se - she makes authors happy, and that's very nice. But as an author--although of course I love to have touched a reader in a good way--it's incredibly useful to see what's NOT so great. If I'm over purple, and that comes up again and again, then that's something I can take away with me. If I head hop then I need to know. If I'm sloppy with grammar, which i know I can be, then I'd rather be told.

There are, as you know, some review sites which will not post bad reviews (Erotica Readers and Writers is one, as they told me clearly when I offered to review for them) and as I say, what's the point? If everything they post is lovely, how is a reader (and that's who reviews are for, after all, even if authors tend to forget this) going to know what is ACTUALLY good and what isn't?

Like Sean, I don't like the "clever" reviews. Dear Author do them in verse from time to time and that's just horrible, doing nothing but bringing attention to the reviewer rather than focussing on the book. They also do real hachet jobs "LIVE" in chat where everyone can join in and make mock. I can't see that anyone benefits from that. I can't actually read Mrs Giggles because she's clever for clever sake, and even though--after eviscerating Standish and Hard & Fast, she quite liked Trangressions, I can't bring myself to read it, and actually wonder at her motives for liking the mainstream book when actually my style was no different from Standish. When you suspect a reviewer's motives, and who they are friends with, rather than trusting them to be dispassionate, then it's not a good thing.

I find it amazing that so many authors reply to reviews so violently. The best reply to a review is NO REPLY. I've had haranging emails from several authors who have probably added me to their stab list, and I never even open them. The reviews are subjective and not for THEM.

I WILL mention the covers. I WILL mention the editing. I WILL continue to mention the historical accuracy - even for the new line of "we don't care about that" books at Dreamspinner because as far as i'm concerned, gay historical fiction means all those three points equally.

Do I like bad reviews? No, of course not, and I've made the mistake of telling online friends about them, and then finding that some of those friends went and shouted at the reviewer on the blog which does nothing but make me look like I've incited them to riot, and I consequently look like a prick. I've not--and would never--encourage that behaviour. Cry in private, chin up in public. No, I don't like them, but I can LEARN by them, and in the long run, I've not found that my sales are at all affected by them. The week after Mrs Giggles slammed Standish for example, was one of my best sale weeks for that book.

I sometimes feel that the reviews here are a little high--I very very rarely see anything below a 3.75, although I know that you do mark lower than that, but conversely, as you say, no matter how stinkin' a book is, one can generally find something good to say about it. Not always, though, I've found!! "the font isn't bad." is something I wish I could say at times. :D

On that note, where's Transgressions? HE HATES IT, DOESN'T HE? It's going to be the first zero score and you don't know how to tell me....

thelastaerie said...

As a reader, I'd admit that sometimes I do skip book reviews that has a low score.

But if I was "cheated" by glowing review and bought the book which turned out to be not good - that would only trick me once. And I'll probably lose faith in both the writer and the reviewer. So at the end of day - the quality of the book will speak for itself.

actually I am rather amused by the fact that some writers stop giving you books to review because you wrote bad reviews about their works before - I mean, how does one go around to "demand" such thing? Like, "hey I am giong to give you a free copy but you can't trash it"? I'd think that published writers would have thicker skin and the great sense to accept both good and bad reviews.

On the other hand, I understand the frustration of reading an "unfair" bad review of your work when the reviewer don't really give valid reasons for the criticism. To be honest, I don't like Dear Author's style, sometimes they give out the impression that they (the reviewer and commentors) are bigger than the book they are reviewing. It's kind of WTF sometimes *g*

Ally Blue said...

Wave, I've said this to you before in private and I'll say it again here in public: your blog is one of the few review sites I actually read, because I do think you and your guest reviewers give fair, balanced, HONEST reviews without stooping to author-bashing or the "look how clever I am" tactics a few other online reviewers (who shall remain nameless) use. Your reviews are not for author-Ally, but I do appreciate them, and reader-Ally finds them extremely helpful in picking out books with the type of plotlines and characters I think I would enjoy. As a reader, I don't go by reviewer opinion, but the reviews here are some of the best as far as giving me enough unbiased story detail to help me make up my mind.

I do not get the tendency of some authors to get SO upset with bad reviews. I mean, sure, it hurts a little. But come on, unless the reviewer is your secret crush or something I don't see why their poor opinion of your book (not YOU, but your BOOK) crushes you so badly. Maybe I'm just arrogant, but I tend to look at a really horrid review and go "no way, that book ROCKED!" o_O

Well, if I hear the same criticism over and over I'd HAVE to listen to it, because I think people would not all be saying the same thing if it did not have merit. So I agree with everyone else there; that is a major value in a good "bad" review :)

Tam said...

Like any criticism it is all in how you couch it.

"The character seemed a bit flat and I would have liked more background on why he bahaved that way" is different from "I hated that character and wished he would have jumped off a bridge."

Needless to say and author would react differently to each statement.

I don't go to review sites except you and Jenre and Kris who I already know have a similar taste to me. And I buy lots of books that I've never read a review for. Some of the ones this week that you are reviewing I bought and read sight unseen (or review unread - whatever), Heart Doctor and Never Let Go are two examples. But if I ever said "Wow, I liked that book a lot because of X." and the reviewer came back and basically told me I was stupid for not thinking like they do I'd be pretty annoyed on the whole. How dare you tell me what I can and can not enjoy. ;-)

But as I said, that's never happened but I'm sure it must somewhere out there in the big bad internet. :-) I insulate myself against the bad stuff.

Kassa said...

As a reviewer, I’ll write about my thoughts and perspectives on a book. I’m not a professional reviewer and have said so everywhere I can think of to mention such facts. I guess I’m tough on books but the majority of books are going to be 3 star books because the majority of books are average. (And 3 stars is actually high when the median is 2.5)

I have a list of authors who I will no longer read/review because of condescending little notes I’ve gotten just to “inform” me of points I’ve missed. If that was actually the case, then I’m greatly interested. What it really is, is a clever dig with a smiley face to show that I didn’t “get” their book and sometimes they don’t bother with the smiley face. Well known authors have done this. It’s ridiculous. I attempt very hard not to be rude, snarky, or in any way condescending in the review so why not ignore it if you disagree?

I think authors can do themselves a favor by just ignoring all reviews period. Don’t respond to the good or the bad and then there is no slighting of anyone. Most of the big names in publishing do this and simply read their reviews in private, not thanking the good or the bad. It sets the best tone for all reviews period. If reviewers are reviewing for readers, then whether the author comments or not is immaterial and thus it’s better if they don’t. (IMHO only of course)

K.A. Mitchell said...

Hi Wave,

So far there's been at least one nugget of something for me to learn from in even the snarkiest of reviews. That said, of course I'd rather hear what didn't work in a reasoned, polite manner as opposed to mocking, but I'm a big girl and if I don't like something, I don't have to read it. If growing up with a snarky family didn't give me a thick skin, then my stack of rejection letters did.

I appreciate all reviews, but the detailed ones, even the ones that show my books' flaws, are the ones that help me become a better writer.

I really appreciate you and the other dedicated readers who take time to write and post reviews. It helps all of us as readers and writers.

Shawn Lane said...

Well it is unfortunate that authors get like that over reviews. Sure some of them sting. Some are lovely. I think you should continue to be honest. It is just an opinion. I think you all do a pretty good job on here.

jessewave said...

Ingrid
I'm glad to get the perspective of a reader. What the authors don't realise is that it's tougher to write a negative review. One of my failings is that I will put them off and then when I can't do so anymore I write a few of them. I have many books that are DNF and therefore don't bother to write reviews for them.

We write detailed reviews, not "fluff"pieces.

Sean

I don't like reviews that are snarky just to prove their own coolness, but I much prefer constructive criticism

We value honest criticism as well which is why I'm always asking for feedback from the 'regulars' on the blog, or even from someone who has only visited once.

I love books and consequently when I have to write a negative review it's not something I do lightly. Maybe some authors would prefer, if we don't like their books, that we say nothing.

The only problem is when those points contradict each other over a series of reviews by different reviewers ;)

Reviews are always a matter of opinion - one person's opinion - and you could probably check any number of review blogs and find differing opinions. Personal taste is a big element when someone reviews a book but if you know the reviewers on a blog and you know whether their taste is similar to yours, then you will soon have a fair idea whether, as a reader, you would want to follow their recommendations.

For example I love sports especially baseball, so I always include a disclaimer whenever I review a book about baseball.*g* I also love cowboys, fantasies, etc. etc.

Obsidian Bookshelf said...

What an interesting post! This statement is very wise:

"It is an author's prerogative to refuse to have their books reviewed by certain sites or blogs, but in my opinion it might be a better strategy to read the reviews, and if they find something in them that they think is noteworthy, good or bad, then take it for what it's worth -- maybe there's a little kernel in there that might be helpful in future. If one reviewer criticizes your book you can ignore his/her comments but if several say the same thing, perhaps you should listen."

We blogosphere reviewers aren't doing it for the money. We're reviewing either (1) to amass snarky content for our blog, or (2) for love of the books.

You authors will be able to tell the difference because the first type of review will have all snark and not much explanation about, or evidence (quotes, plot-points) from, the book.

You can immediately disregard and forget about that type of review. The second type of review will be stuffed with INFORMATION. There may also be informative reviews that are snarky, but you can skim off the snark like fat, and get to the info located beneath it.

Sean said something interesting here:

"The only problem is when those points contradict each other over a series of reviews by different reviewers ;)"

Yes, strange but true. I've found that happens a lot! Writing isn't as exact and absolute as mathematics. It's so subjective that all the reviewers can respond to different things while failing to see other things. The writers should look at every piece of information and just make a gut decision.

Kassa said something interesting:

"I have a list of authors who I will no longer read/review because of condescending little notes I’ve gotten just to “inform” me of points I’ve missed."

Writers should never get snotty with a reviewer! We reviewers never forget, ha, ha!

I feel the same way she does: reviewing is extremely time-consuming, and there are an infinitude of books out there to read. If a writer goes out of her way to get pointlessly snotty with me (and this is very rare), I can always drop her from my watch-list and make room for talented newcomers.

On the other hand, I've had authors email me thanks even for a bad review just because I reviewed the book in the first place. Sometimes I get the impression that the negative review hit them hard, and I wish it wasn't so, but it never fails to make me admire them for their professionalism in emailing the thank-you.

Great post! Thanks for doing it.

Aunt Lynn said...

Great post, Wave.

As an unpaid reviewer who has been the target of both requests to no longer review certain authors and at least one online hatefest (that I know about, anyway), and contrary to popular opinion, I despise writing negative reviews. They are truly hard for me. My nature is not to be mean and I want people to like me, so when it's time to put fingers to keyboard and pen a review that has multiple criticisms -- or even a huge single one -- in it, I procrastinate. I get nervous. I often don't know how to start. I stare at the blank screen for a while. I re-read the book again for maybe the third or fourth time to make sure I wasn't mistaken (my policy is to read books at least twice for a review, and I can only think of one instance when that didn't happen because it upset me so badly). It takes me much longer to write a negative review than a positive one. I like to think that I avoid being snarky and that I produce a thoughtful, fair, reasoned explanation as to what worked for me and what didn't, trying as often as possible to back up my good and bad with quotes or other examples. I try to find at least one thing good to say about it and I never attack the author as a person. I am not a writer, but I can certainly appreciate the effort that it takes to pen a story, find a publisher, and have your art out there for the world to see and comment on. I don't want to hurt the author's feelings, but if the plot had holes, the characters underdeveloped, the editing non-existent, the cover burns holes in your retinas then readers need to know that. But as I often say, I am one person -- one reader -- and it is one opinion of many. Every reader is different. I have reviewed books that I find out afterward there are nothing but excellent reviews elsewhere. I have had other readers comment on my reviews -- both negative and not -- that their experience was different, and that's fine with me.

Regarding author feedback on reviews, I have to say that I have been turned off of authors after they have lashed out at negative reviews, both mine and others. On the other hand, I totally appreciate authors who remain polite and calm in the face of a not necessarily glowing review I and others have posted. In fact, I can think of several authors who I continued to read after a not so great review -- or reviews -- just because they were gracious in the face of criticism.

As a reader, I appreciate all reviews, good and not so good. I shamefully admit that I get a kick out of snarky reviews because I, too, grew up in a household full of snark and humor, but at the same time I am cringing for the author and remind myself why I don't do it myself. I want to know why reviewers I respect -- and even some of those I don't -- liked or disliked a book I am looking to read. I think this site does a great job of being honest, and I'm not saying that because I guest review here. I can also think of several others I trust.

jessewave said...

Meg

I see reviews as an opportunity to find out from someone who doesn't know me and doesn't owe me anything, what they honestly thought of my book.

In my experience, bad reviews have actually been more useful to me as a writer than good reviews.


I'm so glad to hear you say that. Most authors don't realize that we do this because we love books, not for the purpose of ego or because we have lots of time on our hands. Most, if not all, the reviewers on this blog have full time jobs (just like most of the authors) and when we open a new book it's always with the expectation that we will find something really special and enjoyable between its pages. When we're disappointed we indicate why, and we try to outline our reasons as clearly and in as much detail as possible.

It's a rare author who gets good reviews all the time, regardless how famous they are.

Madelynne

I'd rather read an honest review that mentions the books short comings than lots of "this was wonderful" type comments.

That's exactly what we try to do. There are occasions when I wonder how a book went through countless hands in the editing process, (and I do understand that an editor has a specific role) and still ended up with so many errors. However, our job is much broader in scope, in my opinion, so we mostly talk about the characters, the plot, the pacing etc., and whether the book is one we would recommend.

It is always nice to get praise rather than brickbats, but sometimes the latter is what the book deserved.

Jen

Oh honestly, this is ridiculous! On one hand there are people who accuse this site of being overly positive in our reviews and on the other hand, there are authors who are taking their bat and ball home because they don't like that we've given a fair, honest yet critical review.

It can't happen both ways.


It can and it does I'm sorry to say - that's the dichotomy! I suppose some authors feel it's fair game since we review and in some cases criticize their books. What they don't get is the amount of time we spend reading and reviewing their books in good faith, all because we love books.

Another point is that an author cannot actually stop us from reviewing their book.

You're quite correct that they can't stop us from reviewing their books but wouldn't want to go against a specific request. The funny thing is that the latest book from one author who doesn't want this blog to review her books is much better but I'm not going to review it. *g*

I know that many authors don't feel they can dictate to a review site, but one actually said we were prejudiced because we only review M/M books so when a book is M/M/F, and we review it, our opinion is skewed and unfair.

Kassa said...

Wave, your comment here :
I know that many authors don't feel they can dictate to a review site, but one actually said we were prejudiced because we only review M/M books so when a book is M/M/F, and we review it, our opinion is skewed and unfair.

I think it's an accurate assessment as really this blog focuses on m/m content (almost) to the exclusion of all else. Which is fine, considering it's your blog to choose to do so. I think due to the majority of content, a menage, lesbian, or transgender book may not be appropriate given the thrust of the preference. It doesn't make the reviewers bad or choices wrong. It's a matter of wrong audience. But even so, that's not prejudice and a reader can determine a well written book even with elements they dislike (such as *gasp* girls in the sex!).

jessewave said...

Erastes
I agree with much of what you said (except I can't comment on other review sites) *g*

I know you can see both sides of this picture because Speak Its Name is a review site and you're an author. You totally put your money where your mouth is.

When I reviewed Standish I gave it the highest rating on the blog, but I also said in the review why the book was not a personal favourite

Did I enjoy this story? I can't say I did because it is intense, dark, grim and horrific in parts, and the author makes no apologies for exposing the reader to the seamier side of the era. Most of the characters had no redeeming qualities but the writing was brilliant and Erastes did an outstanding job of drawing me into the story.

I'm honest when I write reviews and some authors find that upsetting.

Like Sean, I don't like the "clever" reviews.

We don't write "clever" reviews here. We speak in plain English and state what we liked (or not) about a book.

I WILL mention the covers. I WILL mention the editing. I WILL continue to mention the historical accuracy

We mention the first two but the third one is not our forte and I say that upfront every time I review a historical book. I assume - probably incorrectly, that the author has checked his/her historical facts before the book was published.

I sometimes feel that the reviews here are a little high--I very very rarely see anything below a 3.75, although I know that you do mark lower than that, but conversely, as you say, no matter how stinkin' a book is, one can generally find something good to say about it. Not always, though, I've found!! "the font isn't bad." is something I wish I could say at times. :D

We do so have reviews below 3.5 stars, we even have one that's 1.5.:) I remember that the reviewer was worried about that one until I told her that if that was her opinion, go with it since I didn't read the damn book. I must remember to talk about the font next time :DD

On another note, Christian is helping his mother move to an apartment (this is her first move since she moved into her home) so I only hear from him occasionally. I will remind him as soon as the move is completed. I'm sure he doesn't hate it. :)

K. Z. Snow said...

It's pretty obvious to me (and other writers too, I'm sure) when a reviewer has paid attention and when he or she hasn't. And really, that's all we should care about--a thorough, thoughtful reading, a fair shake.

jessewave said...

Eve

But if I was "cheated" by glowing review and bought the book which turned out to be not good - that would only trick me once.

Always remember that everyone's opinions and tastes vary. Try to remember the last movie you saw that you were raving about and everyone else was going "ho hum".

Many times when I visit other review sites I wonder if the reviewers read the same book(s) I did but I'm sure they feel the same way when they visit this blog.:)

actually I am rather amused by the fact that some writers stop giving you books to review because you wrote bad reviews about their works before - I mean, how does one go around to "demand" such thing?

Sometimes we get books from their publishers, and if the authors feel that we don't play nice, they pick up their toys (books) and go home. I also have books that I bought which I won't review because of the authors. Some of them I won't even read - that's money I could have spent on shoes.*g*

I can't, for obvious reasons, comment on your last paragraph Eve.:)

Erastes said...

Sometimes we get books from their publishers, and if the authors feel that we don't play nice, they pick up their toys (books) and go home

I find this a lot at Speak Its Name, which means that I am almost entirely dependent on buying books (apart from the member of the Macaronis) because some of the publishers think I can be too mean (see Honest) and some publishers think I'm too small, despite being the only review site for gay historicals!!

Anonymous said...

I'm a writer - though not an ebook writer to be fair - and I have a problem with this idea that authors should always just turn the other cheek.

I've had good reviews from respected journals which praised many of the same things that *other* reviewers trashed. So I know that, from an objective point of view, when that reviewer posted on their blog that my book showed I was an incredibly lazy author and I had stolen all my ideas from Tamora Pierce, they were probably not making an observation which had much critical value. However, while they have the right to call me a plagiarist and a lazy bum, I don't get to say, 'Actually you're wrong about that and here's why.' Because that lumps me in with Anne Rice and Alice Hoffman and all the writers who go temporarily psycho and tell their fans to set fire to the reviewers houses.

Maybe in the long run it makes no difference to my fans or my sales if someone on Goodreads.com says that one of my books should be used to start a fire. But it makes a difference to me as a person. When I read things like that it depresses and upsets me, just like if you went into your cubicle in the office and found a note that said 'Bitch' left on your monitor. What did I do wrong, you ask yourself. Did I do something to deserve this? What's wrong with me? Should I even bother writing another book if it can inspire such hatred from another person...

And then you shake it off and get on with life. But it leaves a mark.

Those of us who are midlist *have* to read our own reviews so that we can figure out what bits need to get put on our websites or publicity material. We have to read them so we know which blogs we want to run competitions and promotions with in the future. So we can use them to apply for grants to help us pay for the books and research trips to write the next book (the advance is long gone, fixing the boiler). Avoiding the really mean stuff that other people might be saying is not an option. We have to wade through it to get to the good stuff.

I'm not saying this blog is guilty of any of the sins mentioned above. But instead of everyone jumping on the author who suddenly emerges from hiding and wails like a banshee, stop and think. Think how many awful, mean and inaccurate reviews they might have read over the years and kept their mouth shut about about. Think about all the horrible self doubts that creep in when they stare at their computer screen and all they can see on the page is 'This is the laziest author I've ever read' (in a review about a book they laboured over and loved for two years). Think about a time when you've had a crappy, crappy day, taken all you could stand, and then someone pushed you again and you snapped. It's the same thing. Writers are people, and we live in the real world with our real feelings. Your reviews really do have the power to ruin our week, if you're not careful. You are that important to us.

So (and this is a general request to everyone reading this) next time that you come to write a review which is less than stellar - review the BOOK, not the author. Maybe you thought the ending was rushed. Okay. Say that. Don't say: 'The author obviously got bored and just shoved this climax on the end'. Maybe you felt that the relationship between the characters moved too fast. Fine. Say that. Don't say, 'This author seems to feel that a female cannot exist without a man, so she shoves the heroine into a relationship in about five seconds'. You don't have to give constructive criticism. You're not getting paid to be an editor. But just check your facts, and if you *can't* check that the author is a militant feminist who has read The White Goddess twenty times, please don't act as if you *know* this just from reading the book. Don't say things about the author - the person - that you wouldn't say to her face at a dinner party, just because you're safely on the other side of a computer screen. Trash the book all you like. Leave the author alone.

That's all. Now I'm off to wrestle with chapter twenty-three.

jessewave said...

Ally
Thank you for that great feedback. Sometimes we only get feedback when I or someone else on the blog does something that didn't go over well.

I think what I'm trying to understand is why, when we really bend over backward not to make uncomplimentary remarks about authors, and we do what we believe is a fair assessment of their books, some authors dump on us. I get emails from authors (not frequently, mind you) which basically ask where do we get off criticising their books since we ourselves are not writers. I think that as readers we can comment and give our opinions.

I've said this before, the majority of reviewers do so because they love books and reading is sometimes one of our greatest pleasures (OK sex too *g*) and it really bothers me that a few authors think we should only say ice things about their books even when they are clearly not up to the calibre of others reviewed on the blog.

jessewave said...

Tam
You're the best type of reader. You know what you like and want and buy it. So what if sometimes you buy a lemon? We all do, for different reasons. Review sites just offer a reviewer's opinion about a book but if that reviewer doesn't have similar tastes to yours you might end up with a few books that are DNF.

I appreciate your support for this blog - you are usually the first to comment on our reviews. Such loyalty should not go unrewarded and it's a pity that Randy doesn't like you any more.:)

jessewave said...

Kassa
I’m not a professional reviewer and have said so everywhere I can think of to mention such facts.

I might have mentioned this before on another blog where I got into trouble for opening my mouth. There is no "reviewing school" where reviewers can get credentials so you're like most of us - you do this because you love to read.

I guess I’m tough on books but the majority of books are going to be 3 star books because the majority of books are average. (And 3 stars is actually high when the median is 2.5)

There is nothing wrong with being tough. You bring a balance which is a good thing because I'm usually at the other end of the scale. There is nothing wrong with either perspective and the regular readers are able to distinguish each reviewer's tendencies.


I have a list of authors who I will no longer read/review because of condescending little notes I’ve gotten just to “inform” me of points I’ve missed.

I get these as well and sometimes I ignore them, at others I ask the writers if they actually read the reviews because except for a couple of points some of the reviews are actually complimentary.

Some authors do comment to point out an error in the reviews; K.Z. Snow did that with one of my reviews which I corrected and I was happy to do so.

Gehayi said...

To Anonymous--Part 1.

I'm a writer - though not an ebook writer to be fair - and I have a problem with this idea that authors should always just turn the other cheek.

First of all, you're starting from the wrong premise. Jessewave isn't talking about "turning the other cheek," i.e. forgiving those who have done wrong to you. It's about letting your work speak for itself and not starting wank. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether you agree with that opinion or not.

I've had good reviews from respected journals which praised many of the same things that *other* reviewers trashed. So I know that, from an objective point of view, when that reviewer posted on their blog that my book showed I was an incredibly lazy author and I had stolen all my ideas from Tamora Pierce, they were probably not making an observation which had much critical value. However, while they have the right to call me a plagiarist and a lazy bum, I don't get to say, 'Actually you're wrong about that and here's why.'

Saying that someone is a lazy writer is not the same as calling him or her a lazy bum. A lazy writer may be one who didn't do the research, or whose story is full of plotholes, or who didn't create something sufficiently new or different to impress the critic. Calling someone a lazy writer is a comment on the quality of the work; calling someone a lazy bum is an ad hominem attack.

Also, you seem a bit muddled about what plagiarism is. Plagiarism is copying words or passages from another writer's work and passing that work off as your own. You weren't accused of copying passages from Pierce; your critic simply felt that the ideas behind your work had been done before, in the exact same way, by Pierce. There is a difference between copying someone else's work and being unoriginal.

Maybe in the long run it makes no difference to my fans or my sales if someone on Goodreads.com says that one of my books should be used to start a fire. But it makes a difference to me as a person. When I read things like that it depresses and upsets me, just like if you went into your cubicle in the office and found a note that said 'Bitch' left on your monitor. What did I do wrong, you ask yourself. Did I do something to deserve this? What's wrong with me? Should I even bother writing another book if it can inspire such hatred from another person...

And then you shake it off and get on with life. But it leaves a mark.


Yes, of course it hurts to hear that someone disliked your work--especially work that you pored over for so long. But ask yourself--have you liked every single book you've ever read? Haven't there been some books that you've been indifferent to, and others that you've absolutely hated? I'd lay odds that there have been--and that you've shared that opinion with family or friends.

Gehayi said...

To Anonymous--Part 2.

I'm not saying this blog is guilty of any of the sins mentioned above. But instead of everyone jumping on the author who suddenly emerges from hiding and wails like a banshee, stop and think. Think how many awful, mean and inaccurate reviews they might have read over the years and kept their mouth shut about about. Think about all the horrible self doubts that creep in when they stare at their computer screen and all they can see on the page is 'This is the laziest author I've ever read' (in a review about a book they laboured over and loved for two years).

You seem to be making a plea for niceness--which is quite prevalent in romance reviews, by the way. Many review sites won't give less than three stars, no matter what the quality of the book. And it's equally common to find review sites that are fulsome in their praise, regardless of the quality of the work. Such sites are generally worried about looking mean or upsetting the writer, forgetting that they're not reviewing for the writer's sake but for the reader's.

A reviewer is not under any obligation to be nice. A reviewer is only obliged to be honest and accurate. Praise that is given to everyone regardless of the quality of the work is meaningless. It also lowers standards; if a book that is ill-researched, anachronistic, poorly characterized and badly plotted is praised to the skies for its brilliance, why should the writer try to improve?

I realize that it is hard to be criticized. It's not fun. I don't know of anyone who likes it, or of a single writer who doesn't become furious or hurt when he or she reads an unflattering review. But it's part of the deal. And like it or not, you are going to be judged by your work. If the book rambles for about 400 pages and then speeds to a hasty conclusion, it is going to come across as a rushed ending by a bored author, and a critic would be justified in saying so.

A friend of mine once said that writers need to grow rhino skins. I'd second that, and also say that you can't confuse your work with yourself. Criticism of the book is not a personal attack. Not even if it feels like one.

jessewave said...

Shawn

Well it is unfortunate that authors get like that over reviews. Sure some of them sting. Some are lovely.

I have said this about you many times - whether a review of one of your books is good, bad or indifferent you take them all in stride. I really admire you for this.

Obsidian Bookshelf

Thank you for commenting.

We blogosphere reviewers aren't doing it for the money. We're reviewing either (1) to amass snarky content for our blog, or (2) for love of the books.

You've hit the nail on the head. I hope that most reviewers are reviewing books for the second reason. Your comments were so pertinent that there is very little I can add to them. Please come back when I post my next "sensitive" topic in a few days. *g*

T.C. said...

Speaking solely for myself, as both writer and reader, I value every review of my work that I see. Good or bad. Shining star or lump of coal.

I may not always agree with what a reviewer has said, but I don't have to. A reviewer's reason for reviewing is not to agree with me or to promote my book. That good reviews DO, in effect, act as promotion... is a bonus.

Reviewers review for READERS, not for authors, aside from those of us who write and also happen to read a lot. I don't expect any reviewer to feel flattered or indebted to me because I (or my publisher) sent them a book.

Instead, I expect (hope for) a rational, well thought out, HONEST opinion.

Does that mean bad reviews make me happy?

Well, no. Of course not.

Does my unhappiness mean that the reviewer is in some way ignorant, uneducated or unable to grasp the concept I was trying to get across?

Also "of course not."

People have different tastes, different interests, different themes or emotional content they look for in a story. No matter the genre, not everybody can, will or should like the same things.

As a writer and reader, both, it's in my best interests to accept this.

Now, if I receive numerous reviews commenting on poor character development, questionable plot, rushed conclusion, etc.? That tells me as a writer that I need to look at these things more closely.

If I receive ONE review that says these things while others sya more or less the opposite, I'm likely to shrug it off, thank the reviewer for their time and effort, and go on about my business.

My position as a reader is basically the same. I know that what I like in a book may not be what someone else does. I know that opinions vary. I also know that there are some reviewers whose criteria for a good story are so absolutely opposed to my own that if they deeply dislike something, there's a very good chance that I'll enjoy it immensely.

Would I ever-- with either writer or reader hat on-- insult a reviewer or try to cast aspersions on their "qualifications" to review, regardless of their opinion of a particular book?

Um, hell no.

That would be like a chef reacting to a customer's comment that "the soup is a little salty for my tastes" by pitching a fit and screaming "well, everyone else likes it, so you're obviously either bitter, jealous of my skills or just haven't ever had GOOD SOUP before!". Rather than simply saying "I'm sorry you felt that way, but I do hope you enjoy other courses."

It's shortsighted, petty and foolish, really. Especially when it's simply one person's opinion.

Sorry for rambling on. And to answer the actual question...

I already feel like reviewers are doing me a favor by reading my books, then commenting on them. I neither want nor expect glowing comments if the reviewer doesn't feel they are deserved.

MB (Leah) said...

I know that many authors don't feel they can dictate to a review site, but one actually said we were prejudiced because we only review M/M books so when a book is M/M/F, and we review it, our opinion is skewed and unfair.

I think it's perfectly fine to have a review site that reviews a specific genre and authors shouldn't complain about that if they write something else.

I would think that an author would prefer to have their book reviewed by a site that is open to their specific genre because it means that their book will get judged by people who aren't going to knock it based solely on the genre. Also, that review site will have experience with the quality of books in that genre and can judge a book based on extensive knowledge of a particular genre.

I have two blogs, one on which I review m/f and m/m. The other I review strictly f/f or f/f/m. I've had authors thank me for giving them a fair shake on their f/f book because their f/f book was reviewed on other sites always with the disclaimer, "this book was good even with the f/f." Or, "I'm not into f/f so this book sucked." That's not right. So authors shouldn't complain about sites that clearly state what they review.

Anon-I have a problem with this idea that authors should always just turn the other cheek.

I've never had an author bitch at me because of a neg. review, but I have an author correct me on an erroneous assumption and I really appreciated that. While it didn't change my overall feeling about the book, I was glad that it was pointed out to me because it did change my review.

So I agree that an author can and should point out when a reviewer is factually wrong about something.
What an author shouldn't do is argue that the reviewer didn't "get" what the author was trying to say. In this case, if the reviewer didn't "get" it, then most likely the author didn't get their point across effectively.

Think about all the horrible self doubts that creep in when they stare at their computer screen and all they can see on the page is 'This is the laziest author I've ever read' (in a review about a book they laboured over and loved for two years).

I called an author lazy in a review once. But that's because I had read many of her books and I know the quality of her work and what she's capable of. When I get a book that shouldn't have been published as is because it's full of plot holes and other issues and not even close to her usual quality, then I don't feel bad about saying that because I felt that to be the truth in that case.

Trash the book all you like. Leave the author alone.

But the thing is, many authors take it very personally as if they've been directly attacked when people do trash their book. And that's the main issue here.

Yes, the wording is important and a direct attack on the author is unwarranted, however, from those latest examples of authors having melt downs over neg reviews it wasn't because the reviewer was directly nasty to the author.

I think if any author thinks that a reviewer is writing a neg. review with glee and happy abandonment, then they are mistaken. It's not easy to write a neg review. But seriously, as a hobbyist reviewer, I can't not be honest in what I felt about a book. I just can't.

I guess I'm really lucky because I've never had anyone attack me for a neg. review and have only had graciousness from several authors on that count.

jessewave said...

Gehayi

Thank you for responding to Anonymous. I could not have responded better myself. I really appreciate your help and insight.

julesjones said...

As I've mentioned on more than one post of this type, one of the most useful pieces of advice I've had from hanging around older and wiser writers on the sf writers' groups is "20% of the readers will hate your book no matter what."

It *hurts*, when I read a bad review, but that advice does help me keep a bit of perspective. And over the years I've been published, I've seen the evidence for myself. When one reviewer hates a book for exactly the same reason another loves it, and they are both reviewers I contacted and asked to review my book because I already respected them as reviewers, that really does make it clear that Tastes Differ, and differ quite honestly.

jessewave said...

Kassa

but one actually said we were prejudiced because we only review M/M books so when a book is M/M/F, and we review it, our opinion is skewed and unfair.

This is my comment and here's your response

I think it's an accurate assessment as really this blog focuses on m/m content (almost) to the exclusion of all else. Which is fine, considering it's your blog to choose to do so. I think due to the majority of content, a menage, lesbian, or transgender book may not be appropriate given the thrust of the preference.

You are correct that the focus of this blog is M/M almost to the exclusion of anything else. However I think what the particular author was saying was that the reviewer was biased against her book from the getgo because it was M/M/F, and did not give it a fair review, which we both felt was an unfair criticism. If we didn't want to review the book we would just have said "no."

As you know we don't review F/F or transgendered books on the blog. Whenever a publisher or author enquires I tell them that my preference is to review M/M, so I don't think there should be any misunderstanding about the type of books reviewed here. Many other blogs have a distinct preference for het romances which is their prerogative.

No girl cooties here Kassa - what were you thinking?.:)

jessewave said...

Lynn

As an unpaid reviewer who has been the target of both requests to no longer review certain authors and at least one online hatefest (that I know about, anyway), and contrary to popular opinion, I despise writing negative reviews.

Neither you or I like writing negative reviews but I think some authors feel we get off on them.

It takes me much longer to write a negative review than a positive one. I like to think that I avoid being snarky and that I produce a thoughtful, fair, reasoned explanation as to what worked for me and what didn't, trying as often as possible to back up my good and bad with quotes or other examples

You do an incredible job in terms of being specific so you don't have to justify yourself or your reviews.

As a reader, I appreciate all reviews, good and not so good. I shamefully admit that I get a kick out of snarky reviews because I, too, grew up in a household full of snark and humor, but at the same time I am cringing for the author and remind myself why I don't do it myself.

While the review sites that pepper their reviews with snark may be popular, it would be very difficult for the writer to read such reviews. I try to put myself in the authors' place which is why I don't do it myself.

Aunt Lynn said...

Thanks Wave.

While the review sites that pepper their reviews with snark may be popular, it would be very difficult for the writer to read such reviews. I try to put myself in the authors' place which is why I don't do it myself.
I agree. That's why I don't do it in mine.

jessewave said...

Hi Leah

Thanks for coming by.

I think it's perfectly fine to have a review site that reviews a specific genre and authors shouldn't complain about that if they write something else.

When I reviewed for other sites and blogs M/M was just coming into its own and there weren't that many books, compared to het. Most of the review blogs concentrated on M/F and I became frustrated at not getting what I wanted to read so when I set up this blog I knew what I wanted to do.

This blog reviews almost exclusively M/M although on rare occasions I do make exceptions.

Since this is a review blog authors should expect that their books would be held to certain standards. We don't like doing negative reviews and wish that every book could get a gold star but when they don't, for very valid reasons, why shoot the messenger?

The majority of authors that write me or post comments on their reviews are polite and gracious but others --- not so much.

jessewave said...

KZ

And really, that's all we should care about--a thorough, thoughtful reading, a fair shake.

That's all we try to do -- give every book a fair shake, and hope that most of the authors recognize that.

jessewave said...

Erastes
I haven't had any problems with the publishers who have been most polite and gracious. If only the authors would emulate their pubs. I think some of them believe we work for them or the publishers, and don't realize that we do this on our own time which is very valuable.

jessewave said...

Hi T.C.

Speaking solely for myself, as both writer and reader, I value every review of my work that I see. Good or bad. Shining star or lump of coal.

I really appreciate your sentiments. If only a few more of your fellow writers felt the same.:)

I expect (hope for) a rational, well thought out, HONEST opinion.

That "honest" opinion is what some authors object to.

People have different tastes, different interests, different themes or emotional content they look for in a story. No matter the genre, not everybody can, will or should like the same things.

As a writer and reader, both, it's in my best interests to accept this.


We strive match up reviewers with the content that they love to read so that the books get a fair and knowledgeable critique, and I hope that comes through in the reviews.

I already feel like reviewers are doing me a favor by reading my books, then commenting on them. I neither want nor expect glowing comments if the reviewer doesn't feel they are deserved.

Why can't all writers be as reasonable?*g*

Thank you for coming by the blog and for giving us your views T.C. I hope to have an opportunity to review one of your books sometime.

jessewave said...

Jules

one of the most useful pieces of advice I've had from hanging around older and wiser writers on the sf writers' groups is "20% of the readers will hate your book no matter what."

I hope that those readers who hate your books at least give them a fair shake before tossing them.

Personal taste is very important when reviewing a book and there are a few topics that turn me off so I don't review them. If I don't feel I can do a book justice I ask someone else to review it.

Thank you for responding to my post Jules and have a good evening.

T.A.Chase said...

I want the reviewer to be honest about any of my books they read. Of course, I'd rather hear that every reader loved my books and how they are the bestest books in the whole wide world, but I do live in the real world (occasionally...lol)

Not every story of mine will be loved by every person who reads it and I understand that.

So when I get great reviews or bad reviews, I try to react the same way, by thanking the reviewer and taking the criticism in stride. Because you're right. We should read the review and try to write a better book the next time. :)

Great topic.

jessewave said...

Hi T.A.
Thanks for commenting.

Th best writers are those who can roll with the punches and take both good and bad news in stride, without resorting to taking pot shots at the reviewers. We all try to do a good job, and while some reviewers are more skilled at their job (the same goes for writers) there's no excuse for what has been happening recently.

I realize that for authors a bad review may affect sales of a book, and that's the reason I'm especially cautious before writing a negative review. Mot of the time I re-read parts of a book before writing my review. But honesty is extremely important and our readers trust us to tell the truth, so we do.

As always T.A., you're a class act.

Angelia Sparrow said...

Speaking as an author, I read all the reviews. Mostly it's just ego boosting, but sometimes I come across something like "Brooks and Sparrow can write great fiction. This isn't it." And yeah, it stings.

So I thank the reviewer for taking the time and move along.

A mixed review works as a teaching moment. While a glowing one can elevate our mood for days and a downer can lower it, a mixed one is instructive.

jessewave said...

Angelia
Thank you for commenting. I just noticed that you had done so.

We don't want to hurt the writers' feelings but we have a responsibility to the readers to do the best job we can and we hope that many authors recognize that.